• @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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    During last gamenight with the friends we decided to play halo infinite. We all had a good laugh that the two on windows were the only ones crashing

    • @kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
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      i often play gta online with two friends who use windows. they have crashes, sounds disappearing, issues joining sessions and they keep falling through ground. on mint my only problem is no cursor in social club. my framerate is not great though, 80 - 100 vs on windows it stays above 120. except for the random massive lag spikes.

    • @kautau@lemmy.world
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      It’s hilarious to me that I have to jump through so many hoops to get my old games working on windows when they run almost out of the box on Linux, but on the flip side with all the launchers and shit built into AAA games today it’s a hassle to get them set up on Linux. Like once I do get them set up they work great. But lutris, proton versions, winetricks, etc to get them working is an activity

      • @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
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        Many games might actually be DRM free without you realizing. Look them up on PC Gaming Wiki, and maybe you’ll like what you see.

        With some games it’s as simple as launching them directly from the executable to circumvent annoying launchers and accounts.

        Something most people probably don’t even think of doing anymore, and why would they. But it never hurts to try.

        • @kautau@lemmy.world
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          Oh yeah the older games work great on Linux, either with drm gone as you described or a no-cd or something. The windows issues with old games I was referencing mostly stem from old graphics driver requirements (things like dgvoodoo), compatibility mode, having more CPU cores than a game can handle, etc, but I’ve found very little of those issues on Linux.

          On Linux I was referring to having to run like the EA launcher, Ubisoft launcher, rockstar launcher, etc for modern games. They are so finicky and such a hassle to set up, and because they are electron apps with custom code, so basically web browsers with embedded drm. You have to get the right combination of winetricks and proton versions to make them work without issue. I don’t blame Linux at all, I blame the stupid launchers and overwhelming drm

    • @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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      31 year ago

      Me playing The Finals too, the other two crashing before the match and I was more like ‘I’m just hoping that I don’t get banned for playing on linux’

    • Hjalmar
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      Friends are capitalistic propaganda to make you easier to manipulate and control into working long hours so that some guy called “CEO” can show off all of his green pieces of paper to his friends /s

      • stebo
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        all his friends left because he kept rambling about linux

  • jherazob
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    Honestly Steam and Proton have solved like 90% or more of this issue, i was in this spot in the past for a long, long time, but Steam has made this work almost seamlessly for a great number of games

    And then i got the Steam Deck and this went into overdrive

    At this point i feel like Linux is a realistic option for a gamer, qualified of course (anti-cheat tech tends to break things, plus there’s a few problematic ones), but we are at the point where you can buy an AAA title and be relatively confident it will run on Linux (check first though)

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      I still can’t believe how good elden ring runs. Just about every single game i’ve played in my library has run acceptably for years now. The couple of games I had trouble with running like 5 years ago works nice now. Thank you steam/valve for the godsend that is proton and the deck. All hail gaben.

    • @excitingburp@lemmy.world
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      Honestly Steam and Proton have solved like 90% or more of this issue

      As a somewhat recent Windows expatriate (1.5 years I think?), I certainly recall more issues on Win11.

    • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙
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      151 year ago
      Reading package lists... Done
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    • @ULS@lemmy.ml
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      121 year ago

      Off topic… But isn’t apt-get outdated? I thought it was just “apt install”

      • @Routhinator@startrek.website
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        If you’re a user interacting with a terminal => apt

        If you’re writing a script or putting it in a docker file/automation => apt-get

        Apt is just a wrapper around apt-get a newer binary than apt-get (I stand corrected after checking my memory against google) and there are warnings that the apt shorthand is not as reliable in scripted scenarios. Its meant for user convenience.

        Apt-get is most certainly not outdated.

        • @Naz@sh.itjust.works
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          I tried Arch once and they use Pacman for everything.

          It’s like Pacman -sY to install. Makes no sense.

          At least the AUR is cool.

          One day, Linux will have a nice, unified, polished application portal (not store because god forbid we see a LINUX APP STORE).

          For everything else there’s git.

          Git clone Make Pacman -sY lethal company Sudo chmod +x ./home/user/games/lethal_company.x86_64

          “Hold on guys I swear it works, Linux is just better, hold on”

          AUR Proton_EasyAntiCheatHooks Man -k Nvidia-Propietary ./etc/Xserver.conf --display one --mode C1B3 --vsync off Sudo reboot -now

          • @Zink@programming.dev
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            The crazy thing is, you would probably want to name it something direct and memorable like LINUX APP STORE to market it to the masses. Have a tag line like “it’s all free!” or whatever.

            In the Super Bowl (no affiliation to c/superbowl) commercial, we’ll hear some grandma questioning whether the things on her new laptop were free from restrictions or free from cost, and her jock grandson will look right into the camera and say “yes!”

          • @embed_me@programming.dev
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            It’s like Pacman -sY to install. Makes no sense.

            If you read the man page for pacman, it helps. S stands for synchronise, Q for query (local), F is for find (remote), R is for remove. The following sub options (yu after -S) are specific to each main option.

          • @MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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            Best thing I found for Arch-based is yay.

            yay -Syu yay (application name) It just searches repos and AUR in one go. Manages everything like Pacman. I quite like it.

            Yay!

          • 𝕽𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙
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            No seriously though, I aliased the apt command to nala and I use it instead.

            It works nicely with grc for colors in the console and more importantly it supports simultaneous downloads so it runs through a large queue of updates much more quickly.

            This article has a bit more detail on the topic

    • @mortrek@lemmy.ml
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      121 year ago

      I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users. In fact, if it made it to mainstream, it’d probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc. How you may ask? Well, corporations have a lot of money and influence and I’m sure they could “find a way” if motivated to do so.

      • @BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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        I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users

        It already is mainstream. You probably own 10 times as many computers running Linux than Windows without even knowing it.

        Desktop computers are a just a tiny part of the market.

        it’d probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc.

        Yeah, it did. It’s called Android.

        • Ziglin (it/they)
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          Yeah, it did. It’s called Android.

          Aren’t there Android versions that don’t have all the Google things and are open source? (GrapheneOS and LineageOS) If you’re just talking about your average android I’m afraid I agree and am an offender myself. (I hope to change that one day though)

          • @pandacoder@lemmy.world
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            Google still controls the source, and so they have influence over the rest.

            It’s like Ungoogled Chromium. Sure, it’s open source. Sure, if might have Google crap removed. Google still calls the shots on the direction of the browser.

            Same still meaningfully applies to Chromium-based browsers.

        • @tslnox@reddthat.com
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          This is a dumb argument. Yes, my phone uses Linux. How many of the Android users actively come in contact with the underlying system?

          Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook with a real Linux distro pre installed (not that lightweight barebones distro they preinstall so they can sell it without Windows but with OS).

          I use Gentoo, the family PC has OpenSUSE, only my wife’s laptop has Windows… Because guess what, she wants to use what she’s used to, what she knows.

          • @BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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            Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook

            How is that mainstream? Desktop computers (including notebooks) are a niche market.

      • @Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world
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        Apple uses *NIX, it will either become hardware specific versions or Linux where you pay for the OS with the hardware, or be like Red Hat where you pay if you want to do anything.

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      i have relinquished to windows. I log into all my pcs with my phone number now its so convenient i have like 4 licenses attached to it from buying hardware. They give me pennies for my data on Bing its hilarious ill get an Xbox 7 someday for free as a corpobitch

      The new outlook though that is so ass. I expect windows 12 to be a much better experience and fully integrate the modern bloat like which sports team won last night right into my retinas!

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    Well it’s getting better, and fast imo. When I started using Linux some 4 years ago I could barely play anything in my library. If the game had online functionality in any way, chances were it didn’t run. That has gotten a lot better imo but Proton is still not where it needs to be. But things change and from what I, as a consumer, can see it seems like the biggest problem now are invasive Anti-Cheats rather than anything fundamentally breaking the games.

    Edit: but yeah, it sucks when shit ain’t working and the small fraction of stuff not working is still a bit much to swallow

  • @Auli@lemmy.ca
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    This seems dated. I’m not saying there is no issues but man has it improved so much.

      • Ooops
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        Correct. There are still games that don’t work because there is actual work being done to make them not work.

        I wonder where the problem is… must be Linux’ fault.

        • Liz
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          31 year ago

          I am ignorant. Please explain.

          • @brenticus@lemmy.world
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            DRM in many games doesn’t work on Linux. In some cases, like games that use EAC, this is technically just a checkbox at build time where they decide not to support Linux.

            There are also some weird libraries and low-level interfaces that refuse to even work through wine/proton, but that’s pretty rare nowadays. You have to be actively trying to find something that won’t work at all on Linux.

        • Liz
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          11 year ago

          I am ignorant. Please explain.

          • Montagge
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            I assume using anti cheat and not including the files so it works on Linux. I’m of the opinion people shouldn’t buy games with anti cheat, but that’s just my opinion.

    • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭
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      Meh i had to restart overwatch a few times because it has a bug where sometimes miving my mouse in any way causes me to look up and spin counter clockwise at an insane speed… So yeah theres that

    • @wax@lemmy.wtf
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      For sure, but just as an example I tried starting Black Mesa on steam yesterday, which has a native release, but had to tinker quite a bit to get it working. Unfortunately I think it’s often the case that the native releases gets forgotten and lags behind the windows/proton releases

    • @rbits@lemm.ee
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      It’s different for different people. The distro, the hardware, and the game can all have an effect on how often problems arise.

    • Raccoonn
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      I’ve had people tell me that they experience better performance running games on Linux through Proton compared to running them natively on Windows. A while back, I decided to try Windows for the first time since 2002 on actual hardware. With TF2, I encountered significantly more crashes & lag compared to running it on my Arch install…

      • citrusface
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        I can echo this. My games do have better performance running on pop_os rather than Windows.

      • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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        This seems to be the Windows/Linux yinyang in gaming.

        If you go through the effort (or non-effort. It really seems to be luck-based) of getting a gaming rig working in linux, 99% of the time it is simply better at everything, crashes less, etc. The 1% can require hours or more of troubleshooting.

        Windows runs slower and worse than linux, and arguably less stable. But you boot up, click play, and (largely) it just plays.

        That’s also my recent experience with Ubuntu on a gaming laptop. Every single step of the way gives me trouble, but when I manage to run something in the linux side, boy does it run well. So I’ve got this nice “todo” since I already blew my only free day on it last weekend.

        • Raccoonn
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          A friend of a friend tried daily driving Ubuntu recently & had a few problems (some of which were gaming related). They eventually switched to Linux Mint and pretty much most of their problems seemed to disappear…

          • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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            Interesting. I wish I could bring myself to like mint. I’ve typecast myself as an ubuntu-head ever since I went full “Elder Price” with the CDs back at my first dev gig.

            • Raccoonn
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              I’ve never used mint myself, but I’ve heard good things about it. Last time I used Ubuntu on actual hardware was around 2008 I think. For the most part I’ve been using either Arch, Debian or Fedora…

      • It usually goes like this:

        • in certain games, with certain (usually low-medium) settings, without raytracing, with proprietary drivers if nvidia
      • @Wodge@lemmy.world
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        If you’re getting crashes and lag on TF2, that’s your pc. Do you have to hand crank it or something?

        • Raccoonn
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          See I only got lag & crashes on windows, when on my Arch install I had/have no problems whatsoever. I haven’t used windows since 2002 & don’t really plan on doing so any time soon, the install was just to quickly see what windows 10 was like compared to Linux…

    • @PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world
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      Having problems with games sometimes is better than having less problems with games at the cost of your system being bloated, slow and designed in such a way that when it breaks you can’t do anything about it besides sfc /scannow and when that doesn’t work as usual, a complete os reinstall. Linux saves me time but that’s only because it’s possible to have the skill to fix all the random issues you run into, unlike with Windows.

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      Its not perfect, but its really damn good.

      Just takes a little patience and research, mostly to find out if the type of games you generally play use invasive anticheat/drm or not, since those are the most likely to not run.

      but I wont say protons perfect. I’ve had a few games with issues, some big, some small… All usually get fixed with time, though, and now those games run great.

      But in the interest of laying it all bare, I will say the 1 enduring issue I have is how janky it is to get Vortex to work for modding games, specifically Skyrim and Fallout 4… but thats less a proton/linux issue, as it is a Vortex issue. Big strides would be made with a linux version, but Vortex is just jank in general, even on windows.

      And To be clear, I say its jank. Not impossible. I modded the shit out of my Fallout 4 install just last night. but to do it I have to launch the game with STL, use that to launch vortex, the use vortex to launch F4SE.

      edit I just discovered Mo2 linux installer, and oh my god its so much easier…can even download direct from nexus with the vortex download button.

    • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭
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      I have actually only had one singular issue with gaming in the last year (time frame. Not 2024) and that is fixed by restarting the game

  • @Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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    The only time I have trouble with Linux gaming is either a multiplayer game I want to play isn’t supported or some Visual Novel having random issues every once in a while. But this meme is still true lol.

  • @daniyeg@lemmy.ml
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    this is exactly me every time i’m showing someone how easy it is nowadays to run games in linux, only for the game that was running perfectly the previous night to throw some random error and crash my system

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    I always hear people say they sometimes have issues with games but I’ve switched to Linux relatively recently and I still haven’t had a game in my library that didn’t play.

  • @maketheworldcute@feddit.de
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    It’s crazy how much better things are now. I had the same reaction some weeks ago when I wanted to play Leathal Company with friends and remembered I’m on Linux while they all used some 3rd party Windows only mod manager. One day later I found r2modman in the AUR which automatically recognized Steam + Proton and everything just ran. And there is even a Titanfall 2 cross platform mod program!!! The sofware support just keeps getting better every day.

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    Everyone in the comments: “Actually I don’t have the same problems so this is wrong”