Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Ukraine’s statehood could suffer an “irreparable blow” if the pattern of the war continued, and Russia would never be forced to abandon the gains it had made. Putin made his televised comments a day after Switzerland agreed to host a global summit at the request of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Putin dismissed “so-called peace formulas” being discussed in the West and Ukraine and what he called the “prohibitive demands” they entailed.

“Well, if they don’t want (to negotiate), then don’t!” he said.

  • @girlfreddy@lemmy.caOP
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    721 year ago

    Alternate headline…

    Russian warlorld says statehood of nation he invaded at risk if they don’t give up immedately

  • breakfastmtn
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    561 year ago

    Ukraine’s statehood could suffer an “irreparable blow” if the pattern of the war continued, and Russia would never be forced to abandon the gains it had made.

    Fun fact: Ukraine has re-captured more than 50% of the territory Russia occupied since the last time Putin made this ridiculous threat.

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      This is very true. Unfortunately, the Russians have had time to build some significant defense lines and the Ukrainians don’t have the manpower to waste like Russia does. Generally, a defender has a significant advantage and an attacking force needs to use a lot more resources. Attackers have to move forward, generally in the open, and then build new defenses themselves. The Russian approach to breaking defenses is scorched earth. Flatten a city and overwhelm defenses and take the city. However, they are having to use North Korean artillery shells now so that doesn’t imply very good things about their domestic supplies and not allowing them to use as much artillery. (Rumors are that the lack of good barrel replacements combined with shoddy NK artillery shells have led to some interesting failures.)

      The lines have been fairly static for a while now, unfortunately. Aside from occasional larger pushes from Russia, it’s mainly been lots of skirmishes and the front lines getting pushed back and forth.

      Southwest Ukraine is just weird right now. The Ukrainians jumped the Dnieper a bit ago but haven’t really moved much after that. However, Russia has lost quite a few aircraft because of that move as it allowed Ukranian air defense to move much closer.

      While this sounds a little grim, it kinda is. What Ukrainians do have is the ability to hold their current ground well against Russia and continue to let Russia waste resources. Ukrainians also have much more accurate weapons and better intelligence. This allows them to hit targets that hurt and see troop concentrations well ahead of any attack.

      Edit: I should add that while the sound bites of one side gaining x% of land over another sound nice, it’s not usually the complete picture. The tankie counter to the “50% gain” is usually a twisted version of what I wrote above and with much less of the “why”. If you change the timeframe a hair, it’s easy to show land gains in the Russians favor. It’s all about how data is presented and what type of battle is currently being fought.

  • @Creddit@lemmy.world
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    491 year ago

    Didn’t these jokers already try to overthrow their capital city, angling for a total annexation of Ukraine within the first few days of the conflict?

    If Ukraine had not fought back, it’s statehood would have been history over a year ago.

  • Lysol
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    351 year ago

    What he is trying to say is that “My presidency is at risk if pattern of war continues”

    • BugKilla
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      41 year ago

      Whilst largely true, he does have a significant nuclear capability that will be alluded to as part of his dick swinging. I am all for calling him out on his bluffs, I’m not so sure how far he can be pushed until he throws a tantrum with greater consequences.

  • @jet@hackertalks.com
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    161 year ago

    So he is saying he is willing to end the war if he can keep the territory he has stolen… But if he can’t keep it, he won’t end the war.

    I think that fits Ukraines stated war goals of not ending the ear until ALL 2014 territory has been liberated.

    So they agree on something! The war isn’t over.

  • Yer Ma
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    101 year ago

    Why is routers suddenly posting all these “Putine says…” articles?

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    The pattern of #Ukraine #murderfucking #Ruzzian serfs?

    We are about to start selling Ukraine NATO weapon systems with what used to be your money, #Putin. What do you think about that “pattern”, shit for brains?

    How do those F-16’s taste? How about 30 more?

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      -21 year ago

      Love how the little Ukrani muppets eat all the “Ukraine it’s winning” west propaganda LMAO.