Buying a family-sized home with three or more bedrooms used to be manageable for young people with children. But with home prices climbing faster than wages, mortgage rates still close to 23-year highs and a shortage of homes nationwide, many Millennials with kids can’t afford it. And Gen Z adults with kids? Even harder.

Meanwhile, Baby Boomers are staying in their larger homes for longer, preferring to age in place and stay active in a neighborhood that’s familiar to them. And even if they sold, where would they go? There is a shortage of smaller homes in those neighborhoods.

As a result, empty-nest Baby Boomers own 28% of large homes — and Milliennials with kids own just 14%, according to a Redfin analysis released Tuesday. Gen Z families own just 0.3% of homes with three bedrooms or more.

  • blazera
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    1111 year ago

    They trying to distract us. I aint looking at the single home owning boomers, its landlords and corporate real estate companies hoarding homes.

    • @Volume@lemmy.world
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      Absolutely, it isn’t those boomer parents living in a house for 40 years that are driving up the costs. It’s corporations and landlords buying houses as investments so that they can rent them out while the market skyrockets.

    • @PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee
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      Right? Modern medicine is keeping people alive longer, and I’m not going to judge someone for wanting to keep the home they’ve probably lived in for many years.

      I don’t rent, but from what I read it’s out of control, and corporations buying up homes, putting in the bare minimum to fix up (read: lazy/cheap contractors) and asking way more than it’s worth. Now, of course you don’t have to pay it, but if everyone is asking overprice, what are people suppose to do?

    • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      Mostly, you’re right, IMO. But these same people will vote against affordable housing being built near them… “Not in my backyard!”

  • @Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    661 year ago

    Sadly, many can’t move. Retirement homes/communities are sometimes more expensive. Smaller homes cost more or have HOA fees they can’t make work. Most all options have taxes they also can’t make work.

    I wish it were as easy as telling them to move but it’s not.

    • @CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world
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      171 year ago

      A few years ago my grandparents were in a memory care facility as their health declined. It cost them $18,000 a month to stay there. Adjusting for inflation that’s like $22,000 a month.

      • FuglyDuck
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        memory care facility

        I’m assuming a large part of that was the full time nursing care to keep Gran’s from wandering off into the street looking for Pinkie, their childhood cat in the middle of rush hour (as well as dealing with… you know… making sure they get meds and, eating right, and wiping their ass after, they, uh, ate right.)

        • Not really, surprisingly. They mostly only needed basic assisted living stuff (meals were provided). Both needed help with their medications, but my grandpa was mostly independent, only requiring help putting on his shoes and taking showers. My grandma was a psycho wannabe escape artist though. But she didn’t really need someone to watch her all the time. The building was intentionally designed confusingly to prevent escapes.

    • @CoreOffset@lemm.ee
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      121 year ago

      Smaller homes cost more or have HOA fees they can’t make work. Most all options have taxes they also can’t make work.

      It’s pretty insane that America has virtually no supply of inexpensive small homes. It’s all about the 2500+ sq-ft behemoths that cost $400,000+.

      Even though it’s a “worse” deal per sqft I think the market for sub $200,000 homes in the 500-750 sq-ft range would be absolutely booming if it existed.

      • FuglyDuck
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        91 year ago

        I know a real estate developer type. (kinda a moron, actually, but he’s got a lot of experience in building expensive places to live.)

        A comment he made to me once was “Nobody builds low-income housing. a mid-rise luxury condo will only cost a bit more to build than low income apartments, but you make a shitload more”

        yeah, he was also kind of an asshole.

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          A comment he made to me once was “Nobody builds low-income housing. a mid-rise luxury condo will only cost a bit more to build than low income apartments, but you make a shitload more”

          Yeah, I completely believe it.

          Space-efficient middle housing for the poor and lower middle-class is not something we can rely on private companies to do in America. It’s something that is going to have to take government intervention.

          The apartment complex I was in took up as much land as around 5-7 average sized new construction homes yet it housed 42 46(I actually remember two of the buildings having 8 apartments each) apartments. It was also in a part of the country where a car was basically required. There was space for every apartment to have at least 1 car and have space to spare. Realistically probably about 1.5 cars per apartment could fit parked in the complex.

          • @vividspecter@lemm.ee
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            There was space for every apartment to have at least 1 car and have space to spare. Realistically probably about 1.5 cars per apartment could fit parked in the complex.

            Parking minimums are utter madness, and a big part of the issue in the US. Although I understand that in some states/cities where this isn’t required, developers still overbuild the parking just out of the assumption that buyers/renters will prefer it.

            • @CoreOffset@lemm.ee
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              Parking minimums are utter madness, and a big part of the issue in the US.

              True.

              However I was simple talking about an apartment complex in a relatively rural part of the country without access to public transit. There were about 55-60 parking spaces for 7 buildings of 46 apartments.

        • r00ty
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          Here in the UK it’s generally the same, but also in a way worse.

          Developers are “required” to build a percentage of homes that are “affordable”. I put both of these in quotes because, yeah. They dodge it over and over and somehow are still granted permission for their next project.

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            A lot of the big developments in minneapolis are supposed to have a certain percentage of the spaces be “affordable”, but, if you happen to be one of the largest real estate developers and in the world… and if you happen to own several lobbyists… waivers exist.

      • @vividspecter@lemm.ee
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        Missing middle housing would be an even better solution (duplexes, quadraplexes, row houses, and small apartment buildings). Single family houses are an incredibly inefficient use of space and naturally cause greater sprawl, which means more cars and more roads (and consequently more emissions).

        • @CoreOffset@lemm.ee
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          11 year ago

          Single family houses are an incredibly inefficient use of space and naturally cause greater sprawl, which means more cars and more roads (and consequently more emissions).

          Trust me, I completely agree. I just have very low expectations of the American market and the American consumer. I figured that lots half as wide and half as deep could fit 4 times the number of “tiny” homes in the same area and it might entice many people who want a single family home to something more land efficient rather than a 2500sq-ft place.

          I used to live in an apartment complex that had a number of buildings and each building had 6 apartments. I really liked it. One of the best places I ever lived, but unfortunately the management company decided that they need to constantly raise the rent. They ended up forcing a lot of people out.

    • @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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      Also, even if it were that easy, it’s kind of hard to expect someone to leave their home for the greater good. Looking at it from the perspective of society at large it makes logical sense and frames the empty nester as selfish, but when it comes down to the individuals it’s kind of hard to blame them, it’s their home and they love it and they chose it, why should they choose something else?

      In general, large scale, difficult, costly changes done for social good are hard to get off the ground when they rely on large numbers of people choosing to make them and solely for the social good without any other natural motivations.

  • candyman337
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    Really tired of big news companies blaming individuals for industries ruined by the greedy elite, if I can’t afford to buy a house l,they can’t afford to move houses. My parents would have a shot in the dark affording a new house.

    • @werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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      Sell your 1 million dollar house that you own and pay $6000 on taxes for just to land back on the market and realize that you can afford a small condo for that and a jumbo loan 😜.

  • @Localhorst86@feddit.de
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    Boomers shouldn’t have to part with their homes. They, too, need a place to live.

    The issue is not Boomers owning the house they live in and refusing to leave it (even if it might be larger than they require) The issue is in particularly large corporations owning thousands of properties and taking them away from the housing market.

  • karashta
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    531 year ago

    “Shortage of homes” created by a parasitic class of people and corporations who gobble up all the available homes

      • Zorque
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        Baby boomers aren’t, but capitalists are.

        They’re the ones who gobble up all available real estate to manipulate everyone else with for their own benefit.

        I assume that was Karashta’s intent, not Baby boomers as you deflected to.

      • Cyborganism
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        The plan was that they sell their home and downsize into an easier to maintain condo.

          • Cyborganism
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            It existed 15 years ago, when millennials were starting to move out of their parents’ home.

              • Cyborganism
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                What everyone is saying is that boomers were greedy. They held on to everything. Jobs, homes, they voted away our social safety nets because they wanted to keep their tax money and voted for conservatives and neo liberals.

                Now the younger generation had a late start in life because of this. They got an education but couldn’t find jobs. They wanted to get a house to raise a family but they had to forfeit that whole idea because of the little savings they could make. And because raising a child in a one bedroom 500sqft apartment, or condo unit at best, isn’t ideal.

      • @betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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        Bunk beds in assisted living, pack them in tight so they briefly get to experience a taste of the consequences of their generation’s gluttony before shuffling off this mortal coil. The rich won’t be affected, of course, so significant opposition isn’t likely. Through their votes and actions, they made their bed so now they get to climb up and lie in it.

        • @FMT99@lemmy.world
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          Yeah? And if a person from the third world whose island is half under water because of your ‘luxurious’ lifestyle comes to you for some of that sweet justice? The average American emits 15 times the CO2 compared to someone in Tuvalu. Would you like to be put in the bed you made?

          Oh you’re not the one that made the system the way it is? Well neither did the majority of “boomers”.

  • ComradeSharkfucker
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    Truts me a single individual owning a home is not a problem and it isn’t what is causing housing insecurity.

    It’s corporations that own thousands even millions of homes

    • @not_again@lemmy.world
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      Similar in principle to carbon emissions: yeah, people individually have a carbon footprint, but corporations and industrial activities dwarf that.

  • @notannpc@lemmy.world
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    I’m shocked! Is this yet another article that tries to blame the average American for the housing market problems instead of residential real estate “investors” buying up all the properties to rent or use as airbnbs?

    Or what about the foreign investors who are buying up land and homes with what seems to be zero oversight?

    But obviously it’s the boomers who just want to live in the house they bought.

  • @JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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    Article makes it sound like an old people problem. It isn’t. It’s a systemic one. People can’t afford houses.

      • @FMT99@lemmy.world
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        Not that weird. The corporate media has been pushing this narrative for a while. They realize that younger people don’t respond to the old racism or anti-lgbtq. But “evil old boomers are stealing your house/money/whatever” seems to work like a charm. It’s just another distraction.

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          The actual solution is to build more and reject the idea that homes should be a monetary investment (because that requires limited supply, which requires that somebody who needs a home in an area can’t get it in order to make demand drive the price up)

    • Black616Angel
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      You don’t understand. You must be angry at old people, not rich people or companies.

    • Verdant Banana
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      my older in-laws are hoarding all the wealth after grandmother passed and they finagled their way into the inheritance they were not in and inherited the vehicles as well

      now we have ask them for anything if we get in a bad way and my side of the family did something similar

      older people do be hoarding

    • @Kbobabob@lemmy.world
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      with home prices climbing faster than wages, mortgage rates still close to 23-year highs and a shortage of homes nationwide, many Millennials with kids can’t afford it. There is a shortage of smaller homes in those neighborhoods.

      The article mentions both cost and availability as factors.

  • @alekwithak@lemmy.world
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    I’m all for blaming boomers, but what about the corporations and foreign entities buying up single family homes?

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      but what about the corporations and foreign entities buying up single family homes?

      Fuck them too. Well. lets fuck them first, and then see if that helps. we can hold boomers in the wings.

      Actually, who do you think sits on the boards of those hedge funds (blackrock comes to mind,)? it ain’t gen z. or millenials. So, yeah. we can still blame boomers… :)

  • Idgaf about the boomers who want to grow old in the homes they bought. Thats their right as a homeowner. I care about the airbnbs, unskilled flippers, and the corps trying to turn America into a “renters market”

  • @Belgdore@lemm.ee
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    Boomers should have housing. And we shouldn’t ignore the idiosyncratic attachments that people develop to their homes. Saying “the boomers need to move so I can have a home” is no different than saying “that people group needs to move so my people group has living space.”

    We can all have homes. The problem is that the corporations are incentivized to buy residential property and rent it to us. Fuck them.

    • Pyr
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      Around me there are strata neighborhoods (HOA) with 3 bedroom houses with restrictions saying you have to be 55+ years of age to live there. There’s no reason other than it makes the housing cheap to purchase for older folks. Younger folk get screwed yet again. There’s no reason a 3+ bedroom house should be reserved for older people.

      I could understand it if there were handicap accessible bathrooms and whatnot but they are just regular homes. Also many luxury condos with the same restrictions.

    • @TheHotze@lemmy.world
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      And many cities make it illegal to build smaller housing units in the areas that older people who own the larger houses live.

  • @viking@infosec.pub
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    “Old people to blame for not selling their houses or dying sooner!"

    Seriously, WTF? It’s my house. The entitlement of some people…

      • @FMT99@lemmy.world
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        We love to have some nebulous evil “other” group to blame. The only interesting thing is this time instead of skin color or sexual orientation, the target is our own (grand-)parents. Wouldn’t have thought that would work as “others”.