• @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    Literally the opposite of this is true. Not having kids is one of the single best things you can do for the planet.

    (Still want to raise a child? Adopt! There are so many kids out there looking for good homes and people who will love and care for them)

    • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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      381 year ago

      Not entirely accurate. Shit hits the fan before this changes too much and we are in much debt. Also infrastructure is somewhat of a fixed cost. I.e. being fewer people does not reduce infrastructure emissions.

      Antinatalism isn’t ab answer to the problem, but might be a reasonable reaction.

      That being said I do not want to advocate for having more children or put the blame for the systemic issues on the individuals suffering from them.

      • @Shiggles@sh.itjust.works
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        391 year ago

        some infrastructure, but by no means all. But I think my stance has always been closer to “if they wanted me to bring in additional players, they should’ve made the game more fun to play”

      • @Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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        Population decline will be the socio-economic epoch which finally puts an end to obligate growth capitalism, and the initial demographic crisis will force us to reprioritize how we use resources and technology to support aging populations. Historical materialism goes brrrrrr.

        Refusing to make children for the capitalist machine is just good praxis.

      • @31337@sh.itjust.works
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        For the time being, most countries can get a younger population by letting in immigrants (who are statistically younger). Would probably result in a softer landing than otherwise.

        Debt and money are make-believe anyway. Just tokens in a game we play called capitalism.

        I’m not sure about the infrastructure claim. Generally, if infrastructure is used less, it requires less maintenance.

        50% of all habital land is already being used by humans and being degraded, which doesn’t seem sustainable, especially since so much of the world still lives in poverty. World population doubles every 61 years, so it seems like it would be nearly impossible to stay on the current trajectory for much longer.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          Reads and rails tend to have a lifetime due to freeze/that cycles and weather/Vegetation unless heavily frequented. A dam does not get easier to maintain because fewer people use it’s water etc. The external burden of mining does not get easier to maintain (groundwater, general loss of height above sea level). Same goes for electricity grids that try to reach everyone. But a 4 lane super highway is easily downgraded to a 1 lane highway.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          Reads and rails tend to have a lifetime due to freeze/that cycles and weather/Vegetation unless heavily frequented. A dam does not get easier to maintain because fewer people use it’s water etc. The external burden of mining does not get easier to maintain (groundwater, general loss of height above sea level). Same goes for electricity grids that try to reach everyone. But a 4 lane super highway is easily downgraded to a 1 lane highway.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          Reads and rails tend to have a lifetime due to freeze/that cycles and weather/Vegetation unless heavily frequented. A dam does not get easier to maintain because fewer people use it’s water etc. The external burden of mining does not get easier to maintain (groundwater, general loss of height above sea level). Same goes for electricity grids that try to reach everyone. But a 4 lane super highway is easily downgraded to a 1 lane highway.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          Reads and rails tend to have a lifetime due to freeze/that cycles and weather/Vegetation unless heavily frequented. A dam does not get easier to maintain because fewer people use it’s water etc. The external burden of mining does not get easier to maintain (groundwater, general loss of height above sea level). Same goes for electricity grids that try to reach everyone. But a 4 lane super highway is easily downgraded to a 1 lane highway.

        • @Gladaed@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          Reads and rails tend to have a lifetime due to freeze/that cycles and weather/Vegetation unless heavily frequented. A dam does not get easier to maintain because fewer people use it’s water etc. The external burden of mining does not get easier to maintain (groundwater, general loss of height above sea level). Same goes for electricity grids that try to reach everyone. But a 4 lane super highway is easily downgraded to a 1 lane highway.

    • @general_kitten@sopuli.xyz
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      21 year ago

      the thing is, while not having babies is good for the planet, it is really bad or even a huge crisis for the economy depending on how it is set up as most economies are set up so that you people take care of the old

    • @Botanicals@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      Please consider kids in foster care before adopting. Adoption is a huge problem in the USA and doesn’t always consider the child’s needs over the potential buyers. ); <3

  • @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    641 year ago

    We could just let people with babies immigrate into the country easily instead of forcing people already here to have extra.

    Oh wait that’s not the right kind of baby? Weird.

  • NarendraCzar
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    451 year ago

    Elon musk is just firing more and more people. What he want these kids to be? Steve Jobless?

    • @ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      You’d need to know if she is having unproctected sex. Exclusively unprotected. And no birth control. Babies can’t happen if she’s taking birth control.

        • @Jakdracula@lemmy.world
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          21 year ago

          Socially UNacceptable:

          “I’m getting hot sticky, messy cream pies deep in me every night, just literally filling my cunt with as much cum as I possibly can.”

          Socially acceptable: “ I’m trying for a baby”.

      • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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        11 year ago

        With her cap saying “ProLife”, you know she is a religious zealot that’s against scientific progress like birth control.

  • pancakes
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    311 year ago

    I feel like at this point you could just do the opposite of whatever old musky says and you’d be doing pretty alright for yourself.

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    I’m sure what humanity needs is checks notes more humans, because we dont have enough problems .

    i looked them up, this is a DIAPER AD

    • Poplar?
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      I won’t say the people who took the picture (especially not Musk in the tweet) have good intentions but whatever economic system we live in, we need people to work to meet each other’s needs e.g take care of older people though? Kids will be demanded by any system.

      • @theneverfox@pawb.social
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        31 year ago

        You need people to do things, absolutely. You need to take care of old people.

        Do you need to have insurance agents? Do you need marketing, or the tax industry, or Wall Street, or managers? Do you need a sales department or an accountant? Do you need lawyers for 95% of the thing lawyers do? Do we need 4 different fast food restaurants in every shopping center?

        I’d go so far as to say most jobs today aren’t necessary. They’re invented by humans to do abstract things that affect how humans interact and organize. Or, they’re only necessary because of this arbitrary organization

        They’re also based on centuries of tradition and/or negotiation rather than intentional design, which means we spend a lot of unnecessary time navigating it.

        I don’t think we’re ready to go without this kind of bureaucracy, because the pressures of late stage capitalism has done a real number on us all. Maybe in a couple generations. But a properly designed system would most certainly free up a hell of a lot of time to care for our elders