• Dick Justice
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    241 year ago

    Hate to tell you this… I don’t know if you have kids yet, but it absolutely does not matter how you raise them, if they’re gay they’re gay. The only thing you’re teaching your children, if they are gay, is that their father probably will hate them if he finds out, and they better hide in the closet until they grow up and can escape you. Nothing else. LGBTQ is not the result of poor parenting, friend, it’s genetic.

    • @opp@lemmy.world
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      Except I have yet to meet a single person from my culture be LGBTQ. As far as Europeans/Asians that’s been part of their culture for thousands of years and there’s nothing wrong with that.

      It’s not genetic, the scientist who conducted the study says he “thinks so but nobody knows for sure”.

      There’s been a serious fight that’s been happening in the past three years regarding exposing and indoctrinating kids into the LGBT world at school and it really is pushing the movement back decades. Like I literally saw a billboard on the highway yesterday that said “matrimony is between a man and a woman”. I haven’t seen this level of hate directed towards the community since before Obama, and it’s all just gaining steam because of this exact argument regarding children.

      • @Yawnder@lemmy.zip
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        121 year ago

        Hahahahahahaha

        You’re funny. Sure, there are no gays in wherever you’re from. Everyone claiming that has been proven factually wrong, but I’m sure your claim is the one that’s true…

      • Jackie's Fridge
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        111 year ago

        “I have yet to meet a single person from my culture who is LGBTQ+, so they must not exist. It can’t possibly be that my culture has violently sigmatised their existence to the point that they don’t feel safe coming out.”

        “This study can’t definitively prove that sexual orientation has a genetic element, so it must not have any genetic component at all.”

        • @opp@lemmy.world
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          -71 year ago

          I don’t doubt that they exist but I have yet to meet one in my 30 years on this earth, and it’s largely in part due to culture. Why’s it hard to accept that LGBT ideas are nurtured into a child from the society they live in not their genes. And even liberal parents like myself don’t want their children to be even slightly exposed to LGBT ideas in the school place. If you want to raise your child in that lifestyle then just keep it at home, no need to be exposing other kids to LGBT books and plays at school.

          • Cethin
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            So every book should not have any relationships, right? If indoctrination is bad and wrong, it’s bad for everyone, right? No books should include heterosexual relationships, right? No books should discuss gender heteronormativity, right?

            There’s nothing wrong with being gay, or being trans-gendered. There’s also nothing wrong with being straight or cis-gendered. There’s also nothing wrong with talking about these things or anyone seeing them. If there is something wrong with one, it’s wrong for the others too, unless one is somehow better than the others. If one is better than the others, please elaborate on your reasoning, and before you do understand many animals naturally are gay so an appeal to nature is not an acceptable argument.

            • @opp@lemmy.world
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              my friends male biegel humps the shit out of my leg every time I go over there. That dog is just horny and looking for anything breathing to hump, that does not make him gay. And you are right there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being gay or trans (AFAIK). But as your culture has thought you to fully embrace LGBT people/culture into your life, mine has told me to not. I’ve certainly not embraced the extreme doctrines of my upbringing towards LGBT people, but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I’m certain that it’s not even slightly biological and it’s how they’re raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

              • Exatron
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                but I still steer my children towards a hetro cis worldview and try to minimize their exposure to anything LGBT, because I’m certain that it’s not even slightly biological and it’s how they’re raised by a strong male role model or lack of.

                That’s not how any of this works. You can steer a kid towards a cishet worldview all you want, but that won’t make a kid any less LGBT.

                And biology does play a role in determining a person’s sexual orientation and gender identity. Being raised with a “strong male role model” isn’t really a factor either, sunshine.

        • @guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works
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          -81 year ago

          I rarely use Wikipedia as a source, but this boils it down so well. Europeans & Asian countries have practiced homosexuality for centuries, we (Africans & Middle Easterners) do not practice this, nor do we encourage our children to go out and seek an LGBT life so there is no closets they need to come out of.

          • Cethin
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            51 year ago

            You may not know about them, and they won’t tell you, but they exist. I lived with a Saudi for a while in college who was bi-sexual. He couldn’t tell anyone anytime he was there, but when he was allowed to be open about it some people were allowed to know.

            Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It only means that people suffer. They’re still gay, but they’ll participate in society as straight because they have to.

          • @nBodyProblem@lemmy.world
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            Ohh, so gay people hide their homosexuality when same sex relationships are shunned by their friends and family? What a shocker.

            • @TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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              Comes from a culture that condemns gay people to death.

              “I’ve never seen a gay person where I’m from. It most certainly has to do with the masculine way my culture raises our kids, and not the stoning to death part.”

      • Cethin
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        People literally get insurance in case their ram is gay. It’s common and natural, and I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

        There are gay people around you. They just haven’t told you because you’re a fucking bigot.

        • Cosmic Cleric
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          -11 year ago

          I’m pretty sure it isn’t because those rams were indoctrinated.

          The vast majority of mammalian species have high single digit percentage of gay members.

        • @opp@lemmy.world
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          -21 year ago

          Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans so I’m the farthest thing from a bigot. I just want hetro cis kids because of my upbringing and culture but you’re judging me for wanting that so who’s the bigot here bud?

          • Cethin
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            11 year ago

            Except I have yet to meet a single person from my culture be LGBTQ. As far as Europeans/Asians that’s been part of their culture for thousands of years and there’s nothing wrong with that.

            Some of my closest friends are lesbians, and one ftm trans

            What? I’m assuming your upbringing is different from the culture you’re a part of now. You are in a culture that is accepting of non-heteronormative things and you don’t even realize it. Please examine what this means to you and why you hold the beliefs that you hold, and try to understand why they’re important to you. Also, check to see if they’re benificial or better left in the past. Your culture is a choice. It’s not some intrinsic unchanging thing.