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arrow-up1129arrow-down1imageThe fate of vehicles in the Ukrainesh.itjust.works@CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.worksEnglish • 7 months agomessage-square17fedilinkfile-text
minus-squareNougatlinkfedilink46•7 months agoIt’s just “Ukraine.” The Ukraine is what the Soviets called it.
minus-square@surge_1@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglish7•7 months agoThere’s no “the” in either Ukrainian or Russian. It was more of an “in” vs “on” argument in the Slavic languages.
minus-squareNougatlinkfedilink10•7 months agoRegardless, in English, “The Ukraine” refers to the time of Soviet/Russian possession, while “Ukraine” recognizes Ukraine’s national sovereignty.
minus-square@surge_1@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglish5•7 months agoI’m quite aware, just wanted to give some additional commentary considering the Soviets never literally called it that. This is an English distinction (for which Ukraine did ask after independence)
It’s just “Ukraine.” The Ukraine is what the Soviets called it.
There’s no “the” in either Ukrainian or Russian. It was more of an “in” vs “on” argument in the Slavic languages.
Regardless, in English, “The Ukraine” refers to the time of Soviet/Russian possession, while “Ukraine” recognizes Ukraine’s national sovereignty.
I’m quite aware, just wanted to give some additional commentary considering the Soviets never literally called it that. This is an English distinction (for which Ukraine did ask after independence)