• @noride@lemm.ee
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    243 months ago

    Also worth mentioning LiFePO4 is like half the weight of lead acid and it’s far less susceptible to voltage sag under load. The only area I think LiFePO4 runs into challenges is the inability to charge below freezing. Lead acid is a real workhorse when it comes to the extremes.

    • chaosCruiser
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      153 months ago

      The article also mentions sodium ion batteries as an alternative. Can’t wait to see how they perform in real life.

      • @jabathekek@sopuli.xyz
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        83 months ago

        IIRC there is already an e-scooter you can buy that has a sodium ion battery. From a chinese company (ofc) that I forget the name of. It touts fast charging and basically performs just fin down to -20C.

        • SeekPie
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          This one maybe?

          48 V and a capacity of 24 Ah

          400 W power and a 25 km/h top speed.

          They’re from $450 to $590, so amazingly priced.

          Fun fact: it would not be classified as a e-bike nor a moped in Estonia because it’s less than 1000w and max speed is no more than 25 km/h, but an mini-moped, which doesn’t need a license to drive, but you have to be older than 16 and need to wear at least a bicycle helmet.

          • chaosCruiser
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            43 months ago

            This is big news. Why isn’t everyone already talking about SIBs? Also, the 145 Wh/kg sits neatly between LFP and NMC. As long as the other properties are reasonable, it should stand a chance against NMC.

    • @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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      53 months ago

      If you need to charge LiFePO4 batteries below freezing, you can add a heater to the pack. There are even some batteries available now with built in heaters that come on automatically below freezing.

    • @5in1k@lemm.ee
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      23 months ago

      Less than half in my experience. I bought two 100ah 12v lifepos and they are under 30 lbs. 23lbs I believe. I have a lead acid deep cycle of the same power and it’s like 80-90.