• @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
    9•6 days ago

    Aw, jeez. You wrote:

    Yeah, I understand the policy but it seems like it would be good to update the rules so it’s clear and objective so people don’t get senselessly bent out of shape and start extensive silly arguments in YPTB. Actually it’s also a good thing other people are chiming in with some concrete productive suggestions about how to improve the rules, but at a bare minimum I feel like it’d be good to explicitly clarify the rules in the sidebar, whatever they are.

    And I somehow misread what you wrote as:

    I love the part where it magically became a news article because of where it was posted instead of the author and content!

    shitty fucking rule

    twisting my extremely clear point into absurd word nonsense

    It is like you can’t read

    Jeez, imagine if you’d posted all that stuff, just sort of throwing vitriol around to no purpose. Although, everyone knows that getting into a big bitter argument with someone is the best way to change their mind and improve the policy, so you might want to consider throwing some personal insults and general aggrieved-ness into the mix. Just a little. Who knows, it might help!

    • snooggumsEnglish
      0•6 days ago

      Ah yes, being polite always works with unreasonable people who never admit they are wrong.

      You just linked an example of that not working, so maybe I’m missing your point.

      • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
        1•6 days ago

        I wasn’t talking for Jordan’s sake. I already was pretty sure he wasn’t going to change the policy because I’ve had this conversation with him before. I actually don’t think he is in charge or has the ability to change the policy, I just think that for whatever weird reason, he’s chosen to go out and attempt to “defend” it. It was just sort of due diligence, I guess. I don’t really know why I chose to talk with him about the MBFC policy yesterday.

        My point was that your chosen approach is guaranteed not to work. With reasonable people or with unreasonable people. And, you’re ignoring things that you could be doing that would work that no one is stopping you from doing (like posting the story you wanted to have posted, from some reliable source, or advocating for some other world news community with less bizarre moderation.) You’re just sort of throwing insults around. I’m saying that is unlikely to accomplish anything, although it might be fun.

        • snooggumsEnglish
          0•6 days ago

          My point was that your chosen approach is guaranteed not to work.

          I started off clear and concise and didn’t escalate until they dug in their heels and it was clear they weren’t going to budge. At that point I was posting to vent and maybe it would encourage others to try something that might get through.

          Throwing insults around is not always a negative thing, sometimes expressing frustration is a valid thing for people to do even if it doesn’t fix anything. While your advice would work for engaging with reasonable people, it ends up being tone policing when the approach never mattered in the first place.

          • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
            0•6 days ago

            I went back to the beginning of your conversation and all I see is you and Jordan being equally snitty and pedantic at each other.

            IDK, man. You’re not really wrong as far as talking to Jordan sometimes being like talking to a wall. But I think your chosen approach is pretty much guaranteed to make that tendency worse, if someone already has it. That’s as long as I really want to go back and forth on the subject.