I pointed out loads of ironies in a story that was clearly intended to demonstrate how wasteful war and fascism are. Still don’t think that the Starship Troopers film was satirizing fascism? Within the first two minutes of the commentary featuring Ed Neumeier and Paul Verhoeven, Verhoeven says this:
In fact, it’s saying, of course, that this fascist propaganda that is current—apparent in the movie should be really read—at least that’s how we meant it—should be read as something that is not good. So whenever you see something that you think is fascist, you should know that the makers coincide with your opinion thinking that it is not good. That is not a good statement and this is not good politics, and if you see a black uniform, you should also know ‘bad, bad, bad!’ You know, it’s very simple, you should know, read—read it differently than that. We all agree with that. It’s bad.
There you fucking have it. A film that is basically about overglorified animal hunting is intended to be comedic. Who would have thought? Not the Washington Shitpost, which Neumeier and Verhoeven unhappily mention in the commentary, and certainly not all of the anticommunist bores polluting X (formerly known as Twitter).
Anticommunists apparently think that satire is just something that you do only to get yourself out of trouble, like when Roosh V prefaced his pro-rape article with ‘lol jk’ only after it exploded. I’m fucking surprised that they haven’t tried to reclaim Paths of Glory yet. I can easily see them missing every single irony in that film and thinking that it was pro-war all along… wait… oh crap, they might be reading this right now and getting ideas! I wasn’t serious, guys, really.
Both the author AND director have stated it was the bugs that launch the attack. You very clearly missed how the story tells you it happened.
Even the director of the “satire” movie said that the bugs actually sent the asteroid in his version.
Except the director confirmed in commentary it did in fact happen. Your “its a false flag!” cope is pure invention.
Here I was thinking it was impossible because it was a poorly thought out movie script that didn’t spend 3 seconds thinking about astrophysics.
Don’t pretend Verhoeven was the kind of subtle genius that only you could understand.
I don’t know where they got the information that it was also Neumeier’s intention, but twenty-four minutes into the commentary:
In the beginning of the movie, you think that basically the bugs attacked, that the bugs are bad, that the bugs have to be destroyed, it says ‘Klendathu has to be destroyed!’ Isn’t it? That’s what the first item of the movie says, the first fact net, but now later you find out that that’s only part of history, because the real history started with the Mormon extremists setting up a colony in a territory that they were not asked to come into, which is the Klendathu—let’s say, the Arachnid territory, and then we, basically after they retaliate, and they retaliate by killing the […] Mormons, but also by sending a meteor to Buenos Aires, as we see later in the movie, then we get really pissed off and forget about all that and say, ‘Oh, look at that meteor! How bad! We have to attack!’
At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but in an alternative commentary, where somebody does mention in the first several minutes that there is no indication anywhere in the story that the aliens could have even launched that meteor, Verhoeven still says that the meteor was supposed to be the insects’ retaliation, albeit conceding that the natural disaster theory ‘was an interesting point of view’.
I still think that the natural disaster theory makes a hell of a lot more sense than the director’s intent, but in any event: so what? Why would Verhoeven and Neumeier give a fuck if audiences thought that the meteor was a natural disaster? The story was not about a meteor, it was about showing how wasteful and pointless neofascism would be even at its best. They are ’way unhappier about all of the people who miss the point of the film, not the speculation about the casus belli.
Anyway, most of the other replies are contentless crap mocking somebody for sympathizing with dangerous animals over the neofascists who poked them. Examples:
I’d rather be “the bad guy” serving the interests of humanity than a “good guy” serving the interests of fucking aliens.
Commies empathising with the bugs? You love to see it
Only a dirty fucking Commie would side with literal bugs over his own people. The brain bugs would starve if only Commies existed.
I am human. Therefore humans are the good guys.
Communists always side with the disgusting bug creatures because that’s what most accurately represents them and their ideology.
I think that you get the picture. In a way, it is actually pretty fitting that anticommunists would sympathize with humans whom we see repeatedly kill and endanger each other in a useless, pointless war that could have easily been prevented in its entirety. That kind of wastefulness suits anticommunists nicely.
Engagement farming for the twitter money. It’s boring and tiring and nothing new is ever said from either side.
I feel bad for the people who argue against these fascists because, what else can you say about such an obvious movie? Plus its old (-ish) so I don’t know how many new interpretations you could make about it.