Since recent events are leading people to boycott every product/service owned or operated by a certain person (including Twitter/X), I’ve seen people labeled as a Nazi for promoting/using Teslas.
Does endorsing this product somewhat support the owner either directly or indirectly? Perhaps. Does that mean you necessarily agree with all of his views/actions? I don’t think so, but it might be seen as tolerating them enough to not want to distance yourself from him/cease participating in any action that could in any way support him entirely? Or maybe just prioritising certain things above those principles, or not believing that your use of the product is meaningful in message or impact in relation to support for the figurehead?
It’s a shame because while there are a lot of other EVs, Teslas are a popular line that are in many ways leading the world in electric & hybrid vehicle technology. A boycott of Tesla could do some harm for the world & hinder the fight against climate change (similar to a boycott of Greta Thunberg’s climate efforts over her position on Israel). Is it worth that risk to disassociate from/remove any possible support for the person? Maybe?
Also, notably, the person in question didn’t found the company, contrary to popular misconception, and simply purchased it when he saw a business opportunity like he did with multiple other companies. So it would be a shame to forever link the brand with him inextricably rather than recognising its origins and potential to exist outside of his orbit (and maybe it will divest from him eventually, possibly as a necessity for commercial viability/brand image in the wake of this apparent boycott).
Lastly, some have pointed out that while the owner’s views on climate change issues are mixed at best (with quite a few scientists having accused him of climate misinformation-spreading), his association with climate-friendly tech innovations could inspire the political group he is now heavily embedded in to reconsider the potential utility of such technologies or the need to address climate change in general, many of whom are currently resistant to those ideas.
People who bought a Tesla before Musk publicly went hard right couldn’t know. If I was one of them, I’d look at selling the vehicle, but I understand long-time Tesla owners don’t want the aggravation or take a financial hit reselling an undesirable vehicle.
However, people who buy a Tesla vehicle today clearly buy the baggage that comes with it in full knowledge of what they’re buying and I have nothing but contempt for them.
Yeah, this is my stance as well. There are also better high-end alternatives nowadays, like an electric BMW.
yeah i’m conflicted about it, we have a leased tesla through my so’s company and 3 years left on the contract. it would cost so much to get out of it right now that we can’t seriously consider switching the car. but we wake up every day wondering if we’re going to have to scrape off stickers, or wash a fresh spray painted artwork off the hood.
that sucks so much because we really enjoyed that car, and nothing really came close on the market when we got it. Polestar or Ioniq look better and better and we will probably switch to one of those when we give the Model 3 back.
This alone doen’t make you a Nazi, but that’s still a terrible course of action.
A wise man once said…
Calling out Musk and his actions, and avoiding the company that he owns and control, are the least one can do given all the trouble he’s causing, or trying to cause.
Several companies sell electric vehicles, and unlike Tesla, most aren’t owned by a Nazi (sympathiser).
Umm…
If the CEO of a company does the “normal” capitalistic stuff, like shitty wages, then its just bussiness, and the person is giving in to the convienience isn’t necessary doing something wrong. There is not ethical consumption under capitalism.
But
musk has crossed the line from “average shitty capitalist” to a LITERAL NAZI DOING A NAZI SALUTE BEHIND THE PRESIDENTIAL PODIUM ON LIVE TV
If you buy anything with a musk as CEO or majority stockholder, it means you don’t care if you do bussiness with nazis, and that is (IMO) a very shitty thing to do.
(If you bought it before you knew about his fascism, you get an exeption from this rule)
Like the market isn’t all filled with nazis and you have no choice. You have a choice. There are many car manufactureres that are, while being a shitty capitalist, aren’t LITERAL NAZIS.
Like this isn’t just some N-word slip of the tongue (even that is already fucked up by it self), this is a full on fascism, musk is a LITERAL NAZI DOING A NAZI SALUTE
You literally cannot trust a nazi on “promises” of doing better for climate change.
You might save a bit of emissions on the electric cars. But simultaneously, SpaceX will be using un-optimized rockets with total disregard for the climate to achieve his wet dream of getting a human on mars, maximizing the rocket’s performance, when there is a slightly more expensive rocket design that could save a lot of environmental damage, with the same performance. The fascist will pick the cheaper option, doesn’t matter of the enviornmental damages.
(sorry for the caps, I have to emphesize the point)
Are there any minor failures in your Tesla that you can claim warranty against? I wouldn’t begrudge anyone stuck with one now who bought in the past, but a sort of civil disobedience, aimed at costing the company as much as possible, would be an ethical imperative here. Claim any warranty repair you can. Be a ‘picky’ customer. Make support and sales spend extra effort and money in any way possible for your property. After all, you paid for it, make them spend as much money as possible.
You ever owned a Ford? Or a BMW? An Audi, perhaps?
This post has way too much nuance for a site with downvoting.
this is an essay not a question :P
Why are people downvoting this? This site has turned into reddit
You can’t downvote things…
What does that mean?
Don’t downvote everything you disagree with, not a difficult concept. This post isn’t even aggravating, it is a legitimate question.
I literally am not able to downvote things, there is no down button for me
I think it depends on your instance. I can, from lemmy.ml
Can’t from hexbear, I’m not sure we can even see aggregated vote totals if other instances downvote
