• @Limonene@lemmy.world
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      -231 month ago

      They’ll just roll back the blockchain. Ethereum is a centrally controlled cryptocurrency, though its fans claim otherwise. It’s been rolled back before.

      • @nectar@lemmy.world
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        391 month ago

        This is either a person who hasn’t followed ETH since 2016 or is intentionally spreading misinformation.

        It HAS been rolled back once, when the blockchain was in its infancy. But to say that it is still “centrally controlled” suggests having no idea what has happened in the 9 years since.

  • @Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works
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    631 month ago

    I’m so glad I have no crypto of any kind. It’s the wild west with no savings insurance, so once it’s gone, it’s gone.

      • @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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        251 month ago

        Anybody who keeps their money on an exchange any longer than necessary is just asking for trouble. An exchange is like a public toilet. You get in, you shit, and you get the fuck out. You don’t hang around in a public toilet.

        Self custody or GTFO.

    • subversive_dev
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      My speculations:

      • “insecure from the start” - as in , the wallet was never that “cold”

      • with that amount of money, it’s easy to imagine an “insider threat”

      • the hackers could have gotten lucky and struck right when the company was doing legitimate operations on the wallet

      • but probably it’s a towering mountain of incompetence, composed of the elements above and more

    • FaceDeer
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      It’s a common misconception that a “cold wallet” is offline. It’s still on the blockchain like any other wallet, it’s just the keys that aren’t on any network-connected computer.

      It appears that in this case hackers managed to trick Bybit employees into entering the keys into a fake UI that gave the hackers access to them.

      • @dhork@lemmy.world
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        191 month ago

        Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

        And this is the first time I have heard the word “musked” in this context…

        • @x00z@lemmy.world
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          91 month ago

          Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

          I have no idea. I guess they’ll release a lot more info regarding this in the next few days.

          And this is the first time I have heard the word “musked” in this context…

          I think his English isn’t good looking at the rest of the message. Might be “masked” instead.

    • @golli@lemm.ee
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      141 month ago

      What I don’t quite understand is how there is 1.5 billion in a single wallet. Or how are these things structured?

      This article puts their total assets under management at $15.7b, which are held in different cryptocurrencies with ethereum at just above $5b.

      So I am wondering how they have more than 1/6 of their Ethereum in a single wallet or were these multiple that were connected and got compromised through the same vulnerability? How expensive is it to have more individual wallets? Would it not be feasible to have it split in something like $100m chunks? Or any other more moderate size.

      • @DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml
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        31 month ago

        Making more wallets would cost nothing more than a few hundred bytes of storage each for the keys. I have no idea why they wouldn’t have split their funds into evenly sized wallets of, say, $1M each.

    • @dhork@lemmy.world
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      41 month ago

      Well, either it wasn’t as offline as they all thought, or someone pulled off an epic inside job.

  • Phoenixz
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    61 month ago

    Seriously, who calls their online banking type site bye bit?

    Having said that, I’ll just go ahead and assume their security was barely existent, as per usual. I wonder if their CTO was actually s music teacher too.

  • katy ✨
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    -141 month ago

    how is $1.5 billion in worth calculated because no way bitcoin tokens are worth more than $20.

        • @x00z@lemmy.world
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          31 month ago

          You wanted to know how it’s calculated.

          That was the supposed amount of ETH that was stolen. 1 ETH is currently around $2800. The value it has is because people are buying ETH for that price. So you take $2800 and multiply it by 400000. Carry the 5, etc. That’s $1 120 000 000.

          There was some other stuff stolen too I think. I haven’t really looked into it.

          • katy ✨
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            11 month ago

            Oh it I know! I as just joking that I still didn’t get it it was appreciated by my though thank you!

          • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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            11 month ago

            That someone can just make off with that amount of digital “currency” sure inspires trust in that system, so the $2800 price tag might be a bit optimistic.

            • @x00z@lemmy.world
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              11 month ago

              Well it does show that you really do own your own coins. You have to own something before you can lose it.

              With government created currencies this is not really the case, banks can stop any transactions and even close your account, the government can freeze it if they desire, and all that kind of stuff.

    • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I’m not sure I understand the question… Do you think the market value of these coins is made up (as in not directly related to demand), and you can’t actually go onto an exchange and trade it for actual USD? Because of course you can.

      1 Bitcoin (not a token) is currently worth over $95,000