It’s almost 2 am and I’m in bed and I still keep hearing pop pop boom outside. Is it that fun? Seriously. Also, what’s a better sub for this kind of post? Inb4 mastodon.
Yes they are
Understandable, have a good night.
I love this respectul Lemmy vibe
I like a professionally organized fireworks display - one where the town/organizer gives people plenty of notice, trained professionals conduct the display while sober, and emergency services are on standby.
I do not like the idea of an untrained person putting on their own fireworks display. They might have been drinking, there might be kids or pets nearby, they may not know what precautions to take. This negatively impacts neighborhoods when kids and people on alternative work shifts cannot get the rest that they need, pets become anxious, there is no designated start and stop time.
The environmental impact is also worth discussing. Burning copious amounts of chemicals will release fumes which are bad for the atmosphere and can very quickly impact people with medical issues like asthma. At least professionals clean up after themselves; often, people who put on their own shows tend to leave the waste wherever it lands.
Yes they are.
Of course doing them at 2am is a dick move and I wouldn’t do it then. But anything until 10pm is alright in my books.
I don’t like them one bit. Pollute the environment, make unnecessary noise, and are dangerous.
A number of people said “They were when I was young, but not anymore,” and that was my reaction too. I absolutely loved playing with firecrackers or making little explosives when I was a teen, so the 4th was really fun for me.
It’s hard to say why I don’t feel the same way now, but I think part of it is just that I’ve seen it and done it over enough years that it’s boring now. The other part is that, like most kids, I didn’t think about the broader impact of things as much as I do now. Having known people with PTSD from military service, and having pets that are absolutely terrified of the explosions, it’s hard to enjoy them now without thinking of the suffering. Also, I live in parched Southern California close to the hills, so the people lighting giant fireworks in their back yards around me is infuriating.
If don’t give a shit about PTSD for people who voluntarily signed up for military service. I’ts a bummer for the dogs though.
That’s… a strange point of view. Do you also not give a shit about the problems of other people who get injured at work? Like firefighters who get burned?
No, it’s quite specific to the military.
Explosives were fascinating when I was, like, 10 years old. Now, as an adult, they’re just stupid, but we have an ever-growing population of people who derive their sense of self-worth from producing maximally loud, obnoxious, pathetic spectacles (think street-racers, coal-rollers, rap-blasters to name a few), so there you have it. When you’re a nobody and have no attributes that anyone would look up to, well, at least you can force people to pay attention to you and do it on the cheap (important because you’re poor). Boom boom pop pop.
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people yelling at their mobile phone set to speaker while in public
After rejoining a gym recently (had been away ~5yrs) I was astonished to find people doing this right there in the weight room. Blabbing away, having personal conversations at high volume mere feet from all the other paying customers who are just trying to concentrate on their workouts. I’d seen the signs on the wall asking people NOT to do this and take their phone conversations elsewhere, but of course those rules are for OTHER people, not for precious entitled blabbermouths.
I get this, but even as the op here, I do want to say I’m not saying any of these things you brought up are invalid ways to exist in a shared public space. People who “rap blast” as you say - what about rock or metal? What about country or electronic music? What if I am blasting the theme from Katamari Damacy at the gas station and genuinely enjoying myself?
I question the amusement levels of these explosions. But I have to disagree with some of this other stuff, which is valid in a public space albeit could be considered annoying in a similar way.
I don’t think the genre of music matters in OPs point.
My friend, OP is the one who brought the genre up. I was reminded of this: https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/17/michael-dunn-convicted-killing-17-year-old-after-telling-teen-turn-down-rap-music/15732203007/
It was just an example. Playing loud music in public is obnoxious and rude. No matter if you’re playing 50ct or Beethoven
It was just an example, one that came to mind b/c in my low-mid-class residential 'hood in a medium-sized city, I have nearby neighbors who seem to think nothing of blasting rap (it’s always rap for some reason) at a gazillion Db and drenching the entire block in pure noise. All, apparently, because of some sort of “I can do whatever the fuck I want, suck it up” attitude. Now, I personally loathe rap, don’t consider it music at all, but this behavior would be every bit as bad/wrong if they were blasting out symphonic music or trumpet concertos or Coltrane or classic rock or blues or, really, any kind of unnecessary sound that their neighb’s might just not be fans of, or in the mood for. And that includes fireworks noise, which actually is kind of a year-round thing here, just concentrated around calendar events when people can manufacture an excuse to set them off. Stupid riceburner street-racers with, evidently, straight-pipes, actively racing, are also a weekly scourge around here and the cops seem to just look the other way.
What seems to have vanished, in the loud-noises in public sphere, is any kind of common courtesy. I don’t blast my loud “music” in random places where other people are going to be forced to listen to it because that’s just rude - they might have their own tunes on, hate my fave genres, or simply want some peace - I don’t automatically expect that they’re going to be totally down with my noisemaking just because I have the ability to make it. If I pull up to someone with their windows down at at red light and I’ve got some loud tunes on, I turn them down. Basic civility. But now the attitude seems to be “fuck you, I’ll do whatever I want and you’d better like it and if not, tough shit, try to stop me.”
Spot on, mate! I can’t stand them. Ultranationalism, harmful to the environment, poor air quality and noise pollution. Not good for the animals or anything really, a huge waste.
And nowadays, more and more just another “let’s own the Libs” childish pedantic fucking bully-mindset.
I guess a well organized fireworks show can be quite amazing. What I don’t understand is how much private consumers will pay for it each year to literally see their money go up in smoke. That being said, I think those people would find it pretty weird to know I pay money to some guy in Estonia to run a server so I can look at memes of beans as a Spezistan refugee.
Is it that fun?
Yes. Sorry. I only have 1 or 2 days a year where I can legally blow stuff up.
Welp, depends on where you live. When I was growing up in New England it was illegal to set off fireworks if you weren’t a licensed pro. Illegal to buy/own them too AFAIK. Here in WA you can buy them on NA reservations but AFAIK it’s still illegal to set them off. But of course, the yahoos do it anyway and it seems to get worse and worse every year - more, bigger, louder, and for days on end. And all this while the climate gets drier and drier and more fire-prone.
Fireworks are brilliant. I think you live somewhere with cultural issues… people reserve the right to party and annoy everyone else…
They have their time and place - and 2am sounds more like problms with arseholes, not Fireworks.
They should be banned after 9pm (except for New Year - extend until 00:20 for that).
I’ve been witness to some amazing displays that bring tears to my eyes they were so awesome. The most memorable being ones that I’m close enough to feel the pressure wave, a truly trouser flapping experience.
The big issue I have with “reserve the right to bother others” is that others includes animals, elderly people and small children, all of which may be really bothered by fireworks. A lot of birds die during fireworks every time, for example.
I don’t really get anything from fireworks, they all look the same to me.
People who shoot off fireworks in residential areas are inconsiderate assholes.
“residential aresas” whats that even mean?
We’re all living in residential areas.
Right, and shooting off noisy fireworks around people trying to sleep is a dick move. Take them elsewhere.
